Life in a Wormhole: …Really? #eveonline

Since leaving our old wormhole, the recurring question has been “what now?” There’s been a little discussion of ย non-wormhole options — mostly “maybe I should try Incursions”, but that’s a bit like saying “I should become a day trader”; it sounds like it would make money, but I don’t know anyone who does it, don’t really know where to start, and there’s a good ย chance the structure and drama would quickly annoy me. Anyway, aside from saying “we should try that sometime, just to say we have”, all other options involve wormholes in some way, ranging from ‘move to an alliance system’ to ‘just get our own hole and forget everyone else’ to ‘ join up with someone else entirely’.

Now, at the point where we left the wormhole, no one was talking about future plans, at least in part because we didn’t want to get into that conversation with friends who were also leaving but whose plans didn’t necessarily mesh with ours. Em and I have talked about this, weighing the pros and cons of staying in the alliance (the downsides we know) versus some other option (the downsides we don’t). For me and CB, the pros of a fresh start outweigh the cons, but for Em and the Walrus guys the thought is “if we go somewhere else, it should be somewhere that’s clearly different and better for us than where we already are.”

And hunting for a solution has fallen to me, or at least I feel responsible for doing the legwork, since I accelerated the timeline of moving out of the old wormhole (forcing other folks to act/react), and am making “staying together” harder by not just moving into another alliance-owned system.

Luckily, there are a number of good options I have readily available, simply because when we originally joined the alliance, I’d done similar research and found a few other options that I’d really thought were interesting. To be honest, some of them I liked better than the alliance we settled on, but they were vetoed by Gor (or preemptively by me, since I knew Gor would) because they were single corporations, rather than alliances, and Gor wanted to maintain the security that comes from being the person in charge of the corporation you’re in — in short, he didn’t want to join a corp and give someone else the ability to see what he had in his station hangars, and since this is EvE, it’s pretty hard to argue with his caution.

That said, Gor’s not actively playing now, so wormhole corporations that we can join individually, rather than alliances we’d join as a corporation are back on the menu, and I propose a couple that I like to the guys (Lone Star Exploration and The Night Crew). The appeal of either of these corps is the attitude, the history, the personalities of the guys in charge, and the fact that they both seem to have little to no interest in the political machinations present between some wormhole groups.

I also mention that the CEO who recently led those cloaky tech3 cruisers into our system would really like us to join them, but the response to that is a bit like my reaction to news that Bioware is releasing new DLC for Mass Effect 3.

Why yes: as a matter of fact, I *am* still bitter.

The guys will laugh to read this (since they can pull up the hundreds of pages of emails these conversations generated), but I try pretty hard to simply present the pros and cons of the various groups my research turns up, link to their recruitment information, and step back out of the way to let people chew it over. As I said, I feel like I’ve put us all in this situation, so I’ve resigned myself to go along with whatever the group decides. (I don’t always succeed in this passive presentation model, because frankly it’s not in my nature, but at least I try.)

Anyway, the pros and cons are weighed.

This goes on for a bit.

It has been going on, actually, for the better part of a week. I distract myself with running missions for the Minmatar Republic (mumblegrumble CB). The problem is that every group I mention carries with it some concern or yellow flag for someone — obviously, there’s never going to be a perfect solution, but it seems like we can’t come within targeting range of a consensus.

Then, while browsing reddit, I come across screenshots from some crazy wormhole corp whose members are apparently using the strange effects of their home system to run high level Sleeper sites… in assault frigates — ships that should, by all accounts, be instantly vaporized.

I post an email into the thread where we’ve been talking about various wormhole corporations, putting in nothing but the reddit screenshot and the caption “or we could join these guys.”

The reaction was… not what I expected. ย I see excitement, amusement… interest. I don’t know if it’s because it seems like something different, or because it seems like they’re a bit crazy, or simply because it seems like they just don’t take everything so bloody seriously as 9 of every 10 wormhole corps, but for whatever reason, the guys are very interested in this unknown band of misfits.

I am asked to make contact.


  1. I’m interested in getting into wormholes, (once I train up scanning) which corps should I look at.

  2. also, the lexical symmetry of ‘wolf rayet wolf’ is pleasing

  3. I find your last lines to resonate pretty well with me. I have the most fun when I’m not taking the game too seriously at all. Otherwise, what different would it be from my life? Work to make money, use money to buy shiny toys, get an excessively high turnover rate on shiny toys because I’m rough on equipment. Hell, when put that way, my life and my characters life are pretty much the same. I’m not sure what that says about me…

  4. We’re a small WH corp currently in a C4 doing all the usual things WH corps do to have fun and make isk. We’re currently looking for new blood, especially uk and North American time zones. Contact me in game using this name if anyone wants more info.

  5. You should look up ADHC as we don’t care much for politics or Nathan’s veiled threats of intimidation. ๐Ÿ™‚

  6. They weren’t very veiled. ๐Ÿ˜›

    Meh. I just find poaching to be incredibly tasteless and in very poor form. Apologies if I crossed the line earlier.

    +1 for Adhocracy guys though. Have had some good experiences with your group.

  7. I honestly couldn’t really tell who Landredas was talking to — I actually thought it was me, since the post is about us looking for “the next thing to do”, so I didn’t take it as anything untoward or off-topic.

    I’d like to thank SAO for a least a couple minutes of chuckling yesterday when I looked up ADHC’s board. Calling yourself “Gentlemen Vikings” is great. ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. Late to the party, but what exactly is bad about “poaching”?

    It’s a good thing and some countries were founded on it (looking at you US, Mexico, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand).

    Same goes for corps in Eve, if someone values you and wants to make you a better deal, well hell, what do I get and where do I app?

  9. Sorry if there was confusion from my last post, I certainly wasn’t trying to advertise to the general public (a scary proposition at best) but rather directly to the author of this particular blog and members of his corp who are looking to move. Part of the problem with living in a WH full time for the last year is that my manners are a bit rusty ๐Ÿ˜›

Comments are closed.